Monday, June 18, 2012

The Firing Squad

Loomis vs. Greenwald purity battle.

32 comments:

vacuumslayer said...

Ha! I was just there.

zombie rotten mcdonald said...

that was painful.

Might as well start a Mac vs. PC fight.

zombie rotten mcdonald said...

...or "dead badger" vs. Windows.

mikey said...

That's IT?

Name calling?

I mean, I GET it, I'd consider "Libertarian" an insult too, somewhere analogous to "too stupid to understand what planet you live on", but that's IT? A lot of words to get to Nanny Nanny Nanny Goat!

Greenwald's an attack dog, mean, unpleasant, harsh - you really don't want him in your house but you absolutely want him on your SIDE. If he's not pro labor enough for you, so what, be thankful he's working the beat he's working and find somebody else to handle labor issues...

Sheesh...

fish said...

To brand someone a “libertarian on economic issues” who – as you know – opposes enitlement cuts, advocates for a public option in health care, urges greater regulatory restraints on Wall Street, condemns banker-subservient government officials, favors a transfer of military spending to domestic spending, wants a system of public financing for elections, and favors EFCA and more protections for unions requires a staggering degree of wilful dishonesty.”

Going to have to go with Greenwald on this. He is still a douche and his rhetorical style wouldn't convince his grandma, but Loomis is way off on that post.

Substance McGravitas said...

I think it's a troll, and the CATO/Paul business is a good weapon for that. It's a Hamsher/Norquist kind of thing, which is not wonderful argument, but it is one. Drone strikes kill people, and not having medicine kills people: which baby do you throw out with the bathwater?

But you know, it's probably not a good thing to say a guy who is willing to spit out thousands of words at a moment's notice hasn't written about this or that.

vacuumslayer said...

But is any of this more important than the fact that I made a Max Power joke in that other thread? No.

zombie rotten mcdonald said...

"nanny nanny nanny goat"?

zombie rotten mcdonald said...

Greenwald's an attack dog, mean, unpleasant, harsh - you really don't want him in your house but you absolutely want him on your SIDE.


But keep a couple of shovels handy....

fish said...

the CATO/Paul business is a good weapon for that.

Paul's anti-imperialism is worth some praise and made me take a look long enough to realize there is a whole lot of horrifying crazy snakes underneath the skin on that dude. I think GG's praise of Paul was trolling like Loomis is now.

Substance McGravitas said...

That could be, but Greenwald's response to trolling is way funnier than Loomis's is.

mikey said...

Recently I find myself most appalled by the Leftwing Obama hatred, and if you criticize Obama's policies fifty times and then say somewhere that you're going to vote for him because, as bad as he's been in many areas, a Romney Presidency would actually be WORSE, know what they say?

They say you're an "Obama Apologist". Every time.

The best ones I've seen so far in that realm are one person, calls herself a socialist, who insists that Obama has been worse than GW Bush, and another, VERY lefty, who referred to the killing of Osama bin Laden a "War Crime against a sick, helpless old man" because, you see, it was Obama who did it.

These intert00bz, they cause many people to surrender to madness...

ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said...

Ahm just gonna let everybody guess whose side I'm on.
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mikey said...

"nanny nanny nanny goat"?

Well, yeah. What did kids in elementary school in Milwaukee say when they wanted to taunt a kid up on the monkey bars or something?

Substance McGravitas said...

Ahm just gonna let everybody guess whose side I'm on.

Looking at the argument Loomis hasn't got much of one. I don't see that a "side" matters. Sides is for saints.

zombie rotten mcdonald said...

Well, yeah. What did kids in elementary school in Milwaukee say when they wanted to taunt a kid up on the monkey bars or something?

You spilled your beer! Beer-Spiller!

zombie rotten mcdonald said...

Looking at the argument Loomis hasn't got much of one.

And Greenwald reacted pissily, although with actual rebuttals.

As someone said when the slapfight started in another thread, I kind of think they BOTH lost.

ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said...

Sides is for saints.

Potatoes, coleslaw, onion rings LIBEL!

(Not to mention, BRUSSELS SPROUTS!!!1!)
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M. Bouffant said...

I am so tired of people flapping their gums & tapping their fingers on keyboards. Bring back the code duello & let them put their fists where each others' mouths are, already.

Big Bad Bald Bastard said...

Bring back the code duello & let them put their fists where each others' mouths are, already.

I think they should fight a duel with poisonous alien plants.

Substance McGravitas said...

More Brussels sprouts I assume.

vacuumslayer said...

My 2 cents, because I know everyone was just waiting, with buttocks clenched, to find out what I thought:

I think Obama is pragmatic to a fault and not a little cynical. I think he'd be fairly liberal if it were convenient to be liberal, but being a crusading liberal is hard work. He's not gonna be the guy to that hard work. So the way I see it, I can choose between moderate Republican who's right about some things (from a bygone era) or a sociopath who's right about nothing.

I won't hesitate to vote for Obama, just because he'll either make things a little bit better or at the very least won't nuke the country (figuratively). I'm afraid the repukes will turn this into a 3rd world country.

zombie rotten mcdonald said...

My 2 cents:

Greenwald and Loomis in a naked mud-wrestling cage match with throwing swine.

Winner gets to eat the other.

I will referee. With a flat-bladed shovel.

Substance McGravitas said...

I won't hesitate to vote for Obama

I think it's the best bet. The immigration turnaround is at least a vote-getter.

mikey said...

With a flat-bladed shovel.

Dammit.

I'm just not sure.

My preference, on a more visceral level, is for a long handled round bladed shovel. Greater flexibility, greater lethality, more reach.

But, yeah. It's hard to get past the brute functionality of the flat square blade.

But ultimately, and I reserve the right to change my mind AGAIN, I think the inability to dig a hole with the flat square blade hands the argument to the round blade. Besides, when I picture Alice wielding a shovel, it's hard to imagine she'd select the blunt trauma option....

fish said...

The flat one is better for shoveling all the bs.

Another Kiwi said...

Jeepers, I waited all night with buttocks clenched and so far alls I got is somethin' about shubbles.
It just ain't right.
I get very confused by bloggers calling each other out.

fish said...

Loomis just looks bad on this. GG has got him dead to rights and he is acting like a petulant child.

zombie rotten mcdonald said...

yeah, it kind of takes a special effort to look like more of an ass than Greenwald.

fish said...

I know, right?

mikey said...

If somebody started barking at me to write a post on the current state of labor activism, since I am woefully underinformed on every aspect of labor up to and including even having a freakin' job, I'd probably have to write a post about a woman in the process of having a baby...

Substance McGravitas said...

He's good at writing about that stuff.