Hey, Sarah Palin's clubbing The Media with Trig! The referenced discussions regarding Trig's parentage don't have a lot of there there and most of the people I spot that I think of as decent people behave decently, but guess what? A whole bunch of people have their names - their actual names! - attached to various Trig conspiracy theories advanced by a very few people. Everyone taking part in such a discussion should be embarrassed about it in any case.
Was Journolist a stupid fucking idea or what?
Incidentally: I really dislike LEAVE TRIG ALONE jokes because that kid didn't choose a life in the media, and of course personal experience makes me a little sensitive to picking on kids with problems but a post like this is kind of a bind isn't it?
The next time you start some dumb fucking list ENFORCE ANONYMITY BY ANONYMIZING PARTICIPANTS.
Here are a few names to get you started:
Germainebas Dajovey the Permanent Genie
Caridad-Kasie Cobalt-Ellipse
Naykploydheetklucl the Outmoded Radiologist
Noow the Vicuna
Rana Quoohe the Insipid Coachman
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Weethoud Clokout
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Dutemarian Semi-Considerable
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Cubells Measured-Bewailing
Chantommye Felix the Egocentric Courier
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Good idea! Palin will never figure out the true identity of the anonymous joker on Journolist with the username Garance Franke-Ruta.
PLAUSIBILITY ALERT.
Grandpa Freeda
Big Freedia's grandfather!
Now I read links.
Fidel Ungratefully the Accidental Vicious Skeleton
Yeah, sure, it's always 'accidental', EVERY FECKIN' TIME. Feckin' skeletons.
Was Journolist a stupid fucking idea or what?
I would say so, but the journalism trade is foreign and strange to me. Wasn't there some other list called the Loveshack or something?
People who type under their real names get everything they deserve.
How about people who combine that with a parodic version of their real qualification?
Ezra the Trust Fund Policy Wonker
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Townhouse, that's what I was trying to remember. Sourcewatch says a related entry is "incestuous amplification."
Tellya what.
I'm gonna recuse myself (no, I didn't belch) from the whole conversation.
First of all, Journolist wasn't 'stupid'. It was a listserv. There are billions of them. People like to get together with others in their industry and shoot the shit. It's been blown up (by the american political right? Imagine that!) into something it's not.
I utterly disagree with this received wisdom I first saw over at Sadly that Ezra and Matt and Jon and Adam and the rest of 'em are this terrible force for evil (don't worry, I'm not including Joe Klein in there). I read them all and find them smart, thoughtful and valuable. Don't always agree with them, but then if I did I wouldn't read them.
And in the interest of full disclosure, I will be guestblogging for Spencer Ackerman at Firedoglake next week while he's in Afghanistan...
So you've chosen to endorse preemptive surrender via namby-pamby PCism. Nice. The way I see it, if we can't make a running gag out of a baby's Downs Syndrome then the wingnuts have already won.
First of all, Journolist wasn't 'stupid'.
WAS is an interesting word here. I imagine that if it wasn't stupid it would still be going. Not that all the arguments themselves are stupid - although Palin baby bullshit is - but that you have a whole bunch of real-name "secret stuff" for some asshole to have a hissy fit over later.
The way I see it, if we can't make a running gag out of a baby's Downs Syndrome then the wingnuts have already won.
Well, Surber, imagine a hammer thumping on a thumb...FOREVER!
Also good luck to mikey.
Listservs aren't stupid. Talking shop isn't stupid. But it seems to me the way this one was set up wasn't well planned.
Right. And I haven't actually seen anything from it that hadn't been hashed out in public anyway.
The stupid part was trusting such a large group of people to all not be douchebags and not finding a way to ensure that anyone compromising the secrecy of the group would fuck him/herself over too. I would have made the price of entry into the group submission of a terribly offensive pedophilia joke or goatse photoshop involving the children of a major media company bigwig. Or a setlist from your favorite Creed show ever.
The Townhouse thing has safeguards, no?
I don't think so. The New Republic printed some stuff about it.
mikey is the Tbogg of liberal fascism.
that Ezra and Matt and Jon and Adam and the rest of 'em are this terrible force for evil (don't worry, I'm not including Joe Klein in there). I read them all and find them smart, thoughtful and valuable....
Have you read Matt's latest? It's worthy of Brooks. You don't even have to go to that dump Sadly; Pinko has a shot at the Bulls....
I read Matt every day. His take on urban planning, education, local politics and political philosophy is fascinating, and quite sharp. I read Chait every day - I think he's insane when it comes to the middle east, but brilliant on domestic policy. Jon Cohn is scary smart, but sometimes reaches flawed conclusions. Serwer is really insightful, but has a tendency toward accomidation.
See what I'm doing here? All of them (except JOE KLEIN!!) have something to offer. All of them are frequently 'wrong'. I just don't see the value in concluding that some of the most interesting voices some kind of enemy of the state - I mean, great, if you want to have a purity party and excommunicate people, hey, we all have different ways of deciding what to do with our time.
Oh wait. I recused myself because I used to have this argument with Mencken all the time and it always ends up with a bunch of people trying to convince me NOT to read certain pundits, and this only confuses and angers me.
Please carry on...
Caridad-Kasie Cobalt-Ellipse was my favorite.
I can't believe the "Village People" would be so naive as to think that their jokes wouldn't be made public.
I'm not arguing with you mikey; I have a purity party argument all the time with a regular at teh Bulls (granted, it's about OSes, not pundits)
I also feel, however, that there is a purpose to be served for calling them out or mocking them when they write such horrible things as the MattY piece I referred to.
Hey, good luck Mikey. Feel free to steal anything you want to from Riddled.
Ok. I'm probably just a little sensitive because Mencken and friends could be pretty brutal on the topic.
By way of clarity, I should also say this. I hardly ever read the likes of Greenwald or Digby. Why? Because I'm almost certain to agree with their point, but I am frustrated by their apparent inability to understand that many of these things people with our political ideology want are never going to happen in America, and while I suppose it's valuable to have powerful voices reminding everyone of our core values and beliefs, over here on THIS planet I want to participate in the real public policy debate, not an ideological dream...
I hardly read any of those guys because they're boring. When they have a thought worth having others seem to propagate it.
If you're concerned about becoming confused and angry be careful at FDL. Because you know who comments there? Lesley. Capcha confirms that disis true.
while I suppose it's valuable to have powerful voices reminding everyone of our core values and beliefs, over here on THIS planet I want to participate in the real public policy debate, not an ideological dream...
Having those voices on the Right has been pretty useful in pushing that old Overton window waaaaaaayyyyyyy over there (gesturing wildly with right arm)
...HEY! my auto-complete indicates that word verf is one that has been used before. I demand NEW CAPCHAS, dammit!
Oh, I suspect it's possible that some chickens will come home to roost while I'm there.
But that a minuscule price to pay for the largest, loudest megaphone anybody ever had the questionable judgement to hand over to me. I think it's going to be fun.
The question is, while I have an FDL admin login for the next couple weeks, how can I be sure I won't get drunk and post something random and stoopid in the middle of the night? I think I need to hire a babysitter...
As with AK, feel free to pilfer a granny or a hypnowheel if necessary.
how can I be sure I won't get drunk and post something random and stoopid in the middle of the night?
I think we're speaking for everyone here when I say we're counting on it.
Hey, if ANYPLACE on the intertrons could use a dose of anti-earnestness, it's FDL.
Hmm. when did I develop multiple personalities.
Anyway, I think my point was clear. Carry on.
Also, mikey, may I encourage you to borrow the Riddled penchant for inexplicably naming things after Blue Oyster Cult lyrics.
The question is, while I have an FDL admin login for the next couple weeks, how can I be sure I won't get drunk and post something random and stoopid in the middle of the night?
You give it to us, of course. Just like giving the keys to a designated driver: it's the right thing to do!
Seriously, congratulations and have fun.
how can I be sure I won't get drunk and post something random and stoopid in the middle of the night?
Get drunk and post random stoopid stuff in the middle of the day instead. Works for me.
FDL can only be improved by violent and pornographic woodcuts.
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