I appreciate that there are many awesome atheists out there - LIKE ME - but holy shit it's like some people think they have to be against anything that smacks of doing unto others as you would yadda yadda yadda. Which of course is what this happy-go-lucky atheist lady was all about and I think most people understand that she was stupid and awful and full of shit. Unless they're stupid and awful and full of shit of course.
I guess the gist of the complaints in the latter link's threads is that it's worse to notice someone is horrible than that they do horrible things. THEY JUST WANNA BE LOVED! Which might make them, you know, better off if they went down to the local place of worship where everyone pretends to like you.
I am hopeful that this undercurrent in whatever the atheism movement consists of is just a loud and laughable and dumb minority like libertarians, but who can tell in this crazy world?
Nevertheless, jerkiness is just jerkiness. News from the other side:
All canonizations are political to some degree, but the canonization of Kateri Tekakwitha, the first indigenous Canadian saint, was more political than most. The First Nations considered it a key step in the Vatican’s long and haphazard campaign to repair relations with a people it had mistreated for centuries.Rape and abuse slate WIPED CLEAN!
Kateri, who was born in what is now upstate New York and who died in 1680 near Montreal after a short, miserable life, was canonized Sunday in St. Peter’s Square by Pope Benedict XVI, along with six other saints.
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Miraculous Whiteness is proof of God's approval:
After her death, the people noticed a physical change. Cholenec later wrote, “This face, so marked and swarthy, suddenly changed about a quarter of an hour after her death, and became in a moment so beautiful and so white that I observed it immediately.”
It's hard to see much difference between the Pope's claim to control the seating arrangements in Heaven, and the Mormons' propensity for posthumous baptisms of Anne Frank et al.
The latter is seen as weird, however.
Smutty ol' Clyde parachutes in to make my favorite point. Whenever people are bagging on one religion or sect or another for their weird beliefs and behaviors, I'm always compelled to poke my head through the screen into their living room and shout "Hey, dumbass. Name one that isn't weird, bizarre and ultimately fucked up as hell!!"
But frankly, until somebody can provide me with a rational explanation for whatever the hell the "Holy Ghost" is and what the fuck he's doing in that cast of characters I'm giving the prize to the bead jigglers. Does he holy haunt people? Why? If they eat meat on fridays does he come by at night and give them a tummy ache? Nobody seems to know...
I really wish Rand had been a Mormon or Hindu or some other stupid thing. Having glibertarians as atheists almost makes me want to find religion.
Well, by "almost" I mean "hah, no fucking way" but you know what I mean.
The thing is there's where you can make the case for religion: might the world be a better place if those guys involved themselves with organizations that actually do charitable things?
But of course they just wind up like this asshole.
That "Holy Ghost" trinity thing has always confused me, not that I've ever made any attempt to get it, because, y'know.
As far as Kateri W., see also: Guadalupe, Virgin of.
"Marked?" Meaning pock-marked, as a result of a smallpox blanket?
That "Holy Ghost" trinity thing has always confused me
It's the miracle of faith! 3=1. Also you're your own dad. With time machines all things are possible.
HEY!
Ghosts are cool.
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Does the Holy Ghost surf the Internet, though?
Whenever people are bagging on one religion or sect or another for their weird beliefs and behaviors, I'm always compelled to poke my head through the screen into their living room and shout "Hey, dumbass. Name one that isn't weird, bizarre and ultimately fucked up as hell!!"
I think there's a general feeling that in the Catholic church, the bizarre theological claims aren't taken seriously among the higher echelons, who see the spiritual truths behind metaphors that are put there as a sop to the unsophisticated believers yearning for something to believe. Which makes it OK. Whereas newer groups like Mormons are seen as earnest true believers all the way up to the top, and don't get any credit for realism (cynicism if you like) about their bizarre theology.
Institutionalised manipulative cynicism makes everything better.
bizarre theological claims aren't taken seriously among the higher echelons
And then every other time you end up with the wrong pope.
Whereas newer groups like Mormons are seen as earnest true believers all the way up to the top, and don't get any credit for realism (cynicism if you like) about their bizarre theology.
I think another thing about the Mormons is that their religion began in the Modern Era, so the founding grift is apparent to all but the true believers. They don't have the excuse of maintaining the traditions of their medieval peasant ancestors.
until somebody can provide me with a rational explanation for whatever the hell the "Holy Ghost" is
He's the guy that just put the SF Giants into the World Series, so you know, maybe a little thanks is in order...
He's the guy that just put the SF Giants into the World Series, so you know, maybe a little thanks is in order...
HMPH.
Also, the guy holding the sign doesn't appear to be dead enough to make the claim he makes on the sign. He should see to correcting that lapse.
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